# 25.04 Testing- are you brave enough?

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498>\
**Category:** Development\
**Created:** [November 26, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498 "2024-11-26T14:56:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Frogshair](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/frogshair/32/1515_2.png) [@Frogshair](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Frogshair)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/21 "2025-01-29T22:48:08Z")

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This is the output if I open Firefox from the terminal.

> david@ubudgie:~$ firefox  
> update.go:85: cannot change mount namespace according to change mount (/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/local/share/doc /usr/local/share/doc none bind,ro 0 0): cannot open directory “/usr/local/share”: permission denied  
> update.go:85: cannot change mount namespace according to change mount (/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/gimp/2.0/help /usr/share/gimp/2.0/help none bind,ro 0 0): cannot write to “/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/gimp/2.0/help” because it would affect the host in “/var/lib/snapd”  
> update.go:85: cannot change mount namespace according to change mount (/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/sphinx\_rtd\_theme /usr/share/sphinx\_rtd\_theme none bind,ro 0 0): cannot write to “/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/sphinx\_rtd\_theme” because it would affect the host in “/var/lib/snapd”  
> update.go:85: cannot change mount namespace according to change mount (/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/xubuntu-docs /usr/share/xubuntu-docs none bind,ro 0 0): cannot write to “/var/lib/snapd/hostfs/usr/share/xubuntu-docs” because it would affect the host in “/var/lib/snapd”  
> Gtk-Message: 17:46:40.197: Failed to load module “xapp-gtk3-module”  
> Gtk-Message: 17:46:40.220: Not loading module “atk-bridge”: The functionality is provided by GTK natively. Please try to not load it.  
> [Parent 5219, Main Thread] WARNING: Failed to mkdir /home/david/snap/firefox/5647/.config/ibus/bus: Not a directory: ‘glib warning’, file /build/firefox/parts/firefox/build/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:201
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> (firefox:5219): IBUS-WARNING \*\*: 17:46:41.727: Failed to mkdir /home/david/snap/firefox/5647/.config/ibus/bus: Not a directory  
> [ERROR glean\_core::metrics::ping] Invalid reason code active for ping usage-reporting

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**Author:** ![jlb](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/jlb/32/4919_2.png) [@jlb](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/jlb)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:03am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/22 "2025-01-30T04:03:16Z")

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The problem is with Firefox. Try again with a non-Mozilla browser

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 7:25am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/23 "2025-01-30T07:25:46Z")

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Good spot with the two snapd installs. Please can you add that to your bug report and link the bug report here? I can confirm your observations. Certainly looks like a conflict in paths.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/24 "2025-02-01T13:30:58Z")

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Recent updates are now allowing snaps to appear in the menu

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/25 "2025-02-03T21:32:48Z")

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…and today’s live session shows no snaps. Hmm

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**Author:** ![Frogshair](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/frogshair/32/1515_2.png) [@Frogshair](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Frogshair)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/26 "2025-02-08T00:25:22Z")

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I am still trying upload my bug. I know apport is working because I reported a system problem.  
It is stuck in the up load page refreshing every 10 seconds for around 20 minutes. Snaps are present and can be opened from the terminal with errors. Edit: Installed FF ESR from welcome while open.

 ![Snapshot_2025-02-07_19-23-35](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/c/c57c783ac1aeb2480dddd536a2706604e5a38180.png)

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**Author:** ![Tukkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Tukkie](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Tukkie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/27 "2025-02-13T16:54:24Z")

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Hello, I’m brave enough to install and test Ubuntu 25.04. But,When I double click on the install button, nothing happens. Please tell me, how I can install Ubuntu 25.04, so I can test this version.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/28 "2025-02-13T21:13:12Z")

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> **[Bug #2098411 “All snaps are not visible to the end-user” : Bugs : snapd...](https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/2098411)**
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> In 25.04 for several weeks, no snaps such as firefox are visible in the menu.
> 
> snap list displays the snap
> 
> snap run firefox runs the snap, the snap itself is missing from the menu.
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> checked in /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications and all the .desktop...

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/29 "2025-02-13T21:14:19Z")

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I have just downloaded todays daily and I can double click the installer icon on the desktop. Maybe try again with the latest daily?

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**Author:** ![Tukkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Tukkie](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Tukkie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/30 "2025-02-13T21:26:53Z")

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Oké, I download the latest daiy and try again. Thanks for your reply.

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**Author:** ![Frogshair](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/frogshair/32/1515_2.png) [@Frogshair](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Frogshair)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/31 "2025-02-13T22:16:08Z")

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I will me too that bug , Thanks !

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**Author:** ![Tukkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@Tukkie](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Tukkie)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 8:37am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/32 "2025-02-14T08:37:50Z")

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I downloaded daily build 13-02 and still not able to install.

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**Author:** ![jlb](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/jlb/32/4919_2.png) [@jlb](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/jlb)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 3:33pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/33 "2025-02-14T15:33:32Z")

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I confirm, @Tukkie.  
It’s a big step backwards in that respect.  
If I trust the path of the installation launcher, it’s still a snap story.  
I know nothing about development; but why publish an ISO in this case? 🤔

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**Author:** ![Frogshair](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/frogshair/32/1515_2.png) [@Frogshair](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Frogshair)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 7:50pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/34 "2025-02-14T19:50:39Z")

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I added myself to the bug report, but it looks like it has been deemed invalid.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 9:09pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/35 "2025-02-14T21:09:17Z")

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All

f you know anything about bash etc please can you look at /etc/profile.d/ and see if you can work out why the variable XDG\_DATA\_DIRS is missing /var/lib/snapd/desktop … that is the reason why snaps are not appearing in the menu. if you do append that to XDG\_DATA\_DIRS, export the variable and restart the panel (budgie-panel --replace &), then snaps reappear immediately.

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**Author:** ![Frogshair](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/frogshair/32/1515_2.png) [@Frogshair](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Frogshair)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/36 "2025-02-15T00:55:32Z")

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I can probably locate the profile, not sure I can fix it without guidance. I’ll try a new daily as well.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 6:09am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/37 "2025-02-15T06:09:09Z")

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It appears /etc/profile isnt being run. If you run that manually XDG\_DATA\_DIRS is modified correctly. Why /etc/profile isnt being run on logon i dont know. I know for certain it isnt anything the team has uploaded in this cycle

```
. /etc/profile
echo $XDG_DATA_DIRS

```

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 3:20pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/38 "2025-02-15T15:20:57Z")

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The snap not showing issue has been identified as a result of the updated lightdm package in plucky.

If anyone had any insights into lightdm configuration to resolve please share.

Can confirm switching to sddm resolves this matter.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2025, 7:35pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/39 "2025-02-15T19:35:02Z")

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ok - have worked out what is the issue - basically ubuntu has replaced lightdm with the version from debian. This doesn’t include the ubuntu-only script that should have been run on logon. I’ve copied the noble session-wrapper called lightdm-session into budgie-artwork and updated our lightdm config file to use the budgie named script file budgie-lightdm-session in /usr/bin. Uploaded to launchpad. No idea though when this will pop into the archive and hit the ISO due to the huge glibc change kicked off this weekend. That impacts hundred and hundreds of packages in the archive.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/25-04-testing-are-you-brave-enough/7498/40 "2025-02-16T17:37:35Z")

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I can confirm snaps are now shown in the live-session ISO and importantly the installer appears on bootup.

Do note - you HAVE TO use host 3D acceleration and 128Mb RAM graphics in virtualbox - and the equivalent for qemu for the installer to launch correctly.

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