# Blender trouble: is UB21.10 Wayland or X11?

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [October 18, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404 "2021-10-18T13:16:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@Jason](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:16pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/1 "2021-10-18T13:16:47Z")

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Pretty much my question: does Ubuntu Budgie use X11 or Wayland my pal is experiencing some trouble, asking me about what I use. Frankly, my answer was: ?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/2 "2021-10-18T13:48:47Z")

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Budgie Desktop is an X11 based desktop.

Wayland is not an option for budgie currently although it maybe in the future (TBD)

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@Jason](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:08pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/3 "2021-10-18T14:08:59Z")

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Future: 22.04, or farther out than that? The current trouble is Blender and Onlyoffice (among others) are built for X11 only, and don’t work/display on Wayland. There’s been some talk/work on moving it over to Wayland, but it’s not a speedy process. The last post I saw was for May 2020.

> **[Wayland and EGL support](https://devtalk.blender.org/t/wayland-and-egl-support/11171)**
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> Wayland I am looking into implementing support for the Wayland protocol (https://github.com/christianrauch/blender/tree/wayland) and have the basic EGL context creation and event handling ready. @ideasman42, @brecht Is this something you would be...

In no way am I suggesting Ubuntu Budgie should help out – HA! I am merely recommending a solution for my pal and his Blender issue. I’ll let him know ASAP - thanks FossfreedomDavid 🙂

ALSO trouble in Arch, it looks. [AUR (en) - blender-wayland-git](https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/blender-wayland-git/)  
scroll down to the bottom, looks like it’s still trouble as of Feb 2021 ☹

Is Ubuntu 21.10 also X11? Or is it Wayland because it is so tightly knit with the Gnome 40 DE?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:13pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/4 "2021-10-18T14:13:25Z")

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Ubuntu 21.10 itself defaults to Wayland

You can (I think) change the session to X11 via the GDM3 login screen.

For Ubuntu Budgie - 22.04 will also be X11. There are no timelines from Solus upstream as to when we will see Budgie Desktop v11 stuff.

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@Jason](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/5 "2021-10-18T14:16:14Z")

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👍🏽 👍🏽 👍🏽 thanks FFDavid

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**Author:** ![jackyjoy123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@jackyjoy123](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/jackyjoy123)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2021, 10:53am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/blender-trouble-is-ub21-10-wayland-or-x11/5404/6 "2021-12-18T10:53:57Z")

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> [@fossfreedom](#):
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> Ubuntu 21.10 itself defaults to Wayland
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> You can (I think) change the session to X11 via the GDM3 login screen.
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> For Ubuntu Budgie - 22.04 will also be X11. There are no timelines from Solus upstream as to when we will see Budgie Desktop v11 stuff.

thanks for the awesome information.