# Budgie dead slow bootup and laggy

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773>\
**Category:** Budgie Desktop\
**Created:** [June 27, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773 "2023-06-27T22:43:29Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![centarsirius](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/centarsirius/32/4456_2.png) [@centarsirius](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/centarsirius)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/1 "2023-06-27T22:43:29Z")

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so it’s been sometime since my ubuntu has been slowing down but i’ve been working on windows continuously for like 4 months now (using throttlestop, cos it’s old). Came back to budgie today and i literally had to wait for like 5 mins for everything to start up and then more when i restored tabs in chrome. I browsed the forum and found this - [Why is budgie so slow when booting up?](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/why-is-budgie-so-slow-when-booting-up/2980)

so here’s the output from systemd-analyze blame

> 2min 42.043s apt-daily-upgrade.service  
> 2min 7.276s fstrim.service  
> 1min 5.148s plocate-updatedb.service  
> 23.632s snapd.service  
> 19.617s apt-show-versions.service  
> 17.942s dev-loop31.device  
> 10.965s fwupd-refresh.service  
> 7.710s NetworkManager-wait-online.service  
> 2.243s dev-nvme0n1p8.device  
> 2.174s dev-loop4.device  
> 2.164s dev-loop0.device  
> 2.164s dev-loop6.device  
> 2.097s dev-loop2.device  
> 2.094s dev-loop1.device  
> 1.915s snapd.apparmor.service  
> 1.711s man-db.service  
> 1.701s logrotate.service  
> 1.666s apt-daily.service  
> 1.382s docker.service  
> 1.357s ua-timer.service  
> 1.215s boot-efi.mount  
> 1.149s udisks2.service  
> 1.080s bluetooth.service

why is this taking so much time? Really miss the swiftness. Please help

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/2 "2023-06-28T06:06:08Z")

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The top culprits are all drive related services.

Probably should concentrate efforts there.

Look at the drive health in gnome-disks.

Possibly try running a fsck via a usb live session.

If this is a dual boot with windows try turning off windows fast boot

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**Author:** ![centarsirius](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/centarsirius/32/4456_2.png) [@centarsirius](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/centarsirius)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/3 "2023-06-28T12:38:20Z")

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sure, i’ll try them. Meanwhile I also ran conda search --outdated and it gave me so many packages that’re still in my system.

small snippet

> zstd 1.5.2 ha95c52a\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd 1.5.4 hc292b87\_0 pkgs/main  
> zstd 1.5.5 hc292b87\_0 pkgs/main  
> zstd-static 1.4.5 he1b5a44\_2 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.4.5 he6710b0\_0 pkgs/main  
> zstd-static 1.4.8 h9c3ff4c\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.4.8 h9c3ff4c\_1 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.4.9 h9c3ff4c\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.0 h9c3ff4c\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.1 h9c3ff4c\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 h27087fc\_1 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 h27087fc\_2 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 h27087fc\_3 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 h27087fc\_4 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 h9c3ff4c\_0 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 hcb278e6\_5 conda-forge  
> zstd-static 1.5.2 hcb278e6\_6 conda-forge  
> zulip 0.8.2 pyhd8ed1ab\_0 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np110py27\_0 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np110py27\_1 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np110py27\_2 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np111py27\_0 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np111py27\_1 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np111py27\_2 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np111py27\_3 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np112py27\_2 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np112py27\_3 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np113py27\_2 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 np113py27\_3 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 py27\_4 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.8 py27\_5 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.10 py27\_0 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.10 py27h1ef8b13\_1 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.10 py27h4881e95\_1001 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.10 py27h5c5fb89\_1 conda-forge  
> zwatershed 0.10 py27h86cc20e\_1002 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py36h5fab9bb\_0 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py36hd000896\_0 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py37h89c1867\_0 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py37h9c2f6ca\_0 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py38h578d9bd\_0 conda-forge  
> zxpy 1.2.4 py39hf3d152e\_0 conda-forge

how do i get rid of this? cos conda also has been very slow for me, and it’s not just at startup

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 12:46pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/4 "2023-06-28T12:46:47Z")

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Sorry - I can’t help with the above - this isn’t something we ship with and thus we aren’t familiar with.

Perhaps a wider ubuntu audience could help? [askubuntu.com](http://askubuntu.com) / [ubuntuforums.org](http://ubuntuforums.org)

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**Author:** ![centarsirius](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/centarsirius/32/4456_2.png) [@centarsirius](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/centarsirius)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/5 "2023-06-28T17:58:33Z")

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so i disabled fast boot and it really made a difference! but why?! I’d like to have fast boot so that i can seamlessly switch between windows and ubuntu. I can switch and have my windows exactly the way it was previosuly, but couldn’t have that in ubuntu, and i really wanted some feature like that. Now this feels more like a setback.

> 7.332s NetworkManager-wait-online.service  
> 5.125s snapd.service  
> 2.685s fwupd.service  
> 2.406s dev-loop7.device  
> 2.382s dev-loop6.device  
> 2.365s dev-loop4.device  
> 2.359s dev-loop5.device  
> 2.338s dev-loop3.device  
> 2.246s docker.service  
> 2.244s dev-loop2.device  
> 2.223s dev-loop0.device  
> 2.218s dev-loop1.device  
> 2.096s dev-nvme0n1p8.device  
> 1.156s boot-efi.mount  
> 1.085s snapd.seeded.service

the disk is not damaged, i’ve a 1tb ssd, windows, ubuntu and my data drive are all partitions of this disk. Anything else that i can do to speed up in terms of ubuntu? cos i definitely need to do something about conda

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/6 "2023-06-28T18:11:16Z")

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It kind of depends on your setup why fast-boot disabling makes a difference.

If you have a fstab entry to mount a windows partition this will be an issue since fast-boot interferes with mounting.

I think encrypted drives are impacted as well. Probably other issues as well - this isn’t an area I use since I don’t dual boot with windows.

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**Author:** ![centarsirius](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/centarsirius/32/4456_2.png) [@centarsirius](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/centarsirius)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/7 "2023-06-28T18:41:20Z")

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> GNU nano 6.2 /etc/fstab
> 
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> 
> # 
> 
> # Use ‘blkid’ to print the universally unique identifier for a
> 
> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
> 
> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
> 
> # 
> 
> # 
> 
> # / was on /dev/nvme0n1p8 during installation
> 
> UUID=f604cfc7-05e6-4dc7-b196-7ab29607d4b5 / ext4 errors=remoun\>
> 
> # swap was on /dev/nvme0n1p6 during installation
> 
> UUID=209085e9-7e45-47e5-a33c-93c3f90b44c0 none swap sw \>  
> UUID=5EC1-8F1B /boot/efi vfat defaults 0 1

this is my fstab reading, i don’t understand this, but is there anything I can do about this to enable fast boot? One more thing is, i can access my windows files from ubuntu but can’t do the reverse, Idk if it’s a type problem or a problem with the way i installed it. My laptop is a windows native one, but I installed ubuntu and gave it priority such that i get the GNU GRUB option after booting that lets me select the OS i want to use.

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**Author:** ![Coeur-Noir](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/coeur-noir/32/4515_2.png) [@Coeur-Noir](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Coeur-Noir)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/budgie-dead-slow-bootup-and-laggy/6773/8 "2023-08-10T23:36:18Z")

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When fast boot is enabled on Windows, it’s somehow a kind of « hibernate » mode :  
⋅ the current states of your activities is stored somewhere ( pagesys file or something like this ) ;  
⋅ partitions are marked readable only ( to avoid modifying your previously stored state of things ).

Your _fstab_ is normal and shows which ( filesystems in ) partitions are mounted when booting your Linux OS :  
⋅ the root system /  
⋅ a swap partition ( it could be a file instead )  
⋅ and a partition needed for booting in (u)EFI mode.

I presume ( need check ) that EFI partition is the only « common » part between your two OSes.  
If enabling _fastboot_ on windows slows down Ubuntu boot, it’s probably related to it.

And unfortunately, only way to avoid Windows for « preempting » partitions is to disable _fastboot_ ( which means really stop Windows system, not just « hibernate » it ).

Maybe using another boot manager like [ReFind](http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/) ( instead of GRUB ) would provide a workaround, I don’t know.

> [@centarsirius](#):
>
> i can access my windows files from ubuntu but can’t do the reverse

Normal. Linux knows how to read / write on NTFS filesystem but Windows refuses to implement EXT4 capabilities because king Windows does not want you to leave its realm.

If you need common data between your 2 OSes, you should store them on a filesystem ( in a partition ) both OSes can deal with : ExFat or NTFS. Or store data in a NAS.