# Change from Xorg to Wayland on 18.04?

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [May 3, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364 "2018-05-03T19:47:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morantz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Morantz](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Morantz)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:47pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/1 "2018-05-03T19:47:37Z")

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I am using a small laptop (GPD Pocket 7") and would like to go back to Wayland instead of Xorg.  
Scaling factor has to be an integer on Xorg and so on this small screen things are either way to small at 1x or WAY to big at 2x. On 17.10 I used scaling of 1.4x to get a good compromise.

Checking around on google, I found alot of material on dumping Wayland and reverting to Xorg for Ubuntu, but nothing for going the other way. An other suggestion I found was to use ‘xrandr’ to scale things back, but this just locked up my laptop.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/2 "2018-05-03T19:55:57Z")

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Ubuntu Budgie with budgie-desktop v10.4 can never work with wayland. That is a future goal with budgie-desktop 11.

Are you sure you are using Ubuntu Budgie with the budgie-desktop?

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**Author:** ![Morantz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/258eb7/32.png) [@Morantz](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Morantz)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/3 "2018-05-03T20:31:51Z")

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I am now with 18.04 Before I was using plain Ubuntu 17.10 I guess I will be waiting on budgie-desktop 11 then. Might have to get involved with testing.

- Dan Brown

> “My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre, and that I am therefore excused from saving Universes.” ~Douglas Adams

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**Author:** ![mo418](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mo418](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/mo418)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 1:53am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/4 "2018-05-10T01:53:16Z")

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Sorry to hijack the thread a little, but after installing teamviewer 13, it says it cannot run because the OS is using wayland. How come is this happening, since you’re saying it is not using wayland?

To bypass this teamviewer restriction, I saw on many forums that people can choose Xorg instead of wayland by selecting the gear icon at the login on ubuntu. I have not seen anything like this in Budgie.

Is there a workaround/solution?

Thanks in advance 🙂

(PS: sorry for my english, I speak french. Also, I’m kind of tech savvy but fairly new to linux, so maybe I’m missing some basic concepts)

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 4:49am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/5 "2018-05-10T04:49:43Z")

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Not a clue why team viewer thinks that. It is definitely a bug with team viewer and an issue should be raised with them where ever their issue tracker is.

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**Author:** ![mo418](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mo418](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/mo418)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/6 "2018-05-10T12:30:21Z")

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Alright, thanks a lot! I’ll look into that

Regards

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/7 "2018-05-10T13:10:03Z")

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This looks to be your issue: [https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Teamviewer-13-Ubuntu-18-04-Faulty-Wayland-detection-and-logging/m-p/33983](https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Linux/Teamviewer-13-Ubuntu-18-04-Faulty-Wayland-detection-and-logging/m-p/33983)

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**Author:** ![mo418](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mo418](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/mo418)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/8 "2018-05-10T14:29:33Z")

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Exactly, and I’m on a 32bits system too (old pc)

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll follow the thread

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**Author:** ![attila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@attila](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/attila)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 8:04pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/9 "2019-08-05T20:04:20Z")

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Turning back a little to the original topic, what is the suggested way to achieve custom scale 150% on Budgie ? I decided to use Budgie daily for work and personal use, and do not want to use something else, because of known limitations woth [X.org](http://X.org).  
Is xrandr the primary option suggested my Budgie Masters also ? 😃  
Thank you in advance

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/10 "2019-08-05T21:02:56Z")

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Scaling is an experimental option in 19.04.

It is being refined for 19.10 but there are aspects of budgie that need a bit of help with to find a d resolve.

> **[X11 hidpi scaling available for testing on Disco](https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/x11-hidpi-scaling-available-for-testing-on-disco/10293)**
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> EDIT: This has now landed in Disco. You do not need to add the PPA anymore. You can simply set the gsettings key and restart your session. Good evening desktopers, Thanks to Marco, not only GNOME in Disco has non-int UI scaling for wayland \[1\],...

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**Author:** ![attila](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@attila](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/attila)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2019, 10:15pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/11 "2019-08-05T22:15:00Z")

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Thank you for your quick response. I read that article you shared. Unfortunately my laptop is a Tuxedo machine, whereas no more support will be provided by Tuxedo, when upgrading from 18.04 LTS to 19.nn. I like Budgie and know limitation is coming from. deeper. I think I have no choice and do upgrade, or use fractional scaling otherwise very hard to work with scale 100% or 200% on my laptop. Thanks for the clatification and confirmation.  
Thank you, Attila

David Mohammed via Ubuntu Budgie [ubuntubudgie@discoursemail.com](mailto:ubuntubudgie@discoursemail.com) ezt írta (időpont: 2019. aug. 5., H 23:13):

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**Author:** ![charwhee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@charwhee](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/charwhee)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/12 "2019-08-11T05:42:47Z")

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I would like to know if Wayland is available for Budgie in 19.04 release? I’m having a lot of video tearing, and rather than having to go in and futz with X, I’d rather just move to Wayland.

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 7:03am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/13 "2019-08-11T07:03:29Z")

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No. There are no plans to support wayland.

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**Author:** ![user-0209](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/user-0209/32/3073_2.png) [@user-0209](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/user-0209)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/14 "2021-02-03T13:29:22Z")

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Is that still the answer? Can you elaborate about the main obstacles? Isn’t it strategically a must, at least after some time?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/change-from-xorg-to-wayland-on-18-04/364/15 "2021-02-03T14:58:17Z")

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My understanding is that the Solus-Project who are the maintainers of budgie-desktop have stated that there are no plans to support Wayland. I’ve seen that statement in the last few month from them.

I have no more information as to why that is their position.