# Desktop Applet Does Not Appear

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439>\
**Category:** Budgie Applets\
**Created:** [May 13, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439 "2018-05-13T08:06:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![birdsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@birdsong](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/birdsong)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 8:06am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439/1 "2018-05-13T08:06:04Z")

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I have selected the Desktop Show Time applet and the red “remove” button appears under its image in the pictorial Budgie applet menu: System Tools \> Budgie Applets. I assume that means it is installed. What would prevent it from appearing on my desktop? Is there some over-ride setting that excludes applets from being visible? Restarting does not solve the problem.

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**Author:** ![vlijm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/vlijm/32/34_2.png) [@vlijm](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/vlijm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439/2 "2018-05-13T08:17:38Z")

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Please run in a terminal: `budgie-panel --replace&`, and remove/add the applet again, then tell us what the terminal output says. What Ubuntu version do you run? Is this a full install? Do you run it on a multi-monitor setup or single?

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**Author:** ![birdsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@birdsong](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/birdsong)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439/3 "2018-05-13T12:35:30Z")

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Please see terminal output below. Ubuintu Budgie 18.04 full install. Single monitor. The applet appeared after install. I then removed it. Since then it will not reinstall.

sysop@sysop-NUC7i3BNH:~ budgie-panel --replace& [1] 3146 sysop@sysop-NUC7i3BNH:~ \*\* Message: 22:09:22.487: libsession.vala:50: DESKTOP\_AUTOSTART\_ID not set, session registration may be broken (not running budgie-desktop?)

\*\* (budgie-panel:3146): WARNING \*\*: 22:09:22.601: BudgieMenuWindow.vala:298: Software has no parent directory, not adding to menu

sysop@sysop-NUC7i3BNH:~$ [Debug] Opening page: budgie-applets.html  
Reading package lists… Done  
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information… Done  
The following packages will be REMOVED:  
budgie-showtime-applet  
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 1 to remove and 5 not to upgrade.  
After this operation, 48.1 kB disk space will be freed.  
(Reading database … 180588 files and directories currently installed.)  
Removing budgie-showtime-applet (0.4.4-0ubuntu1) …  
[Apt] Reloading cache…  
[Apt] Cache reloaded.  
[‘main’, ‘universe’, ‘restricted’, ‘multiverse’]  
[‘universe’]  
Reading package lists… Done  
Building dependency tree  
Reading state information… Done  
The following NEW packages will be installed:  
budgie-showtime-applet  
0 to upgrade, 1 to newly install, 0 to remove and 5 not to upgrade.  
Need to get 9,792 B of archives.  
After this operation, 48.1 kB of additional disk space will be used.  
Get:1 [http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu](http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu) bionic/universe amd64 budgie-showtime-applet all 0.4.4-0ubuntu1 [9,792 B]  
Fetched 9,792 B in 0s (45.4 kB/s)  
Selecting previously unselected package budgie-showtime-applet.  
(Reading database … 180577 files and directories currently installed.)  
Preparing to unpack …/budgie-showtime-applet\_0.4.4-0ubuntu1\_all.deb …  
Unpacking budgie-showtime-applet (0.4.4-0ubuntu1) …  
Setting up budgie-showtime-applet (0.4.4-0ubuntu1) …  
[Apt] Reloading cache…  
[Apt] Cache reloaded.

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**Author:** ![vlijm](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/vlijm/32/34_2.png) [@vlijm](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/vlijm)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439/4 "2018-05-13T13:04:02Z")

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Ah, wait, that’s not what I meant with add/remove. I meant run `budgie-panel --replace&`, than simply remove/add the applet in Budgie settings, not completely uninstall/install. We need to see what possibly goes wrong when the applet is starting up.

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**Author:** ![birdsong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e0b2c6/32.png) [@birdsong](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/birdsong)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 11:36pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/desktop-applet-does-not-appear/439/5 "2018-05-13T23:36:54Z")

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OK. I had wrongly assumed the applet when installed would create its own panel. Once I added a panel, Showtime now appears on my screen. Different from my prior distro. Thank you.

BTW, at first I found it confusing that there is a menu item containing the word “settings” in Raven as well as two (one a repeat - “Budgie Desktop Settings”) via the upper left icon.

Not really sure what the purpose of the Raven is. I was going to remove it from the top panel, but then saw this operation “cannot be undone”. A bit like death I pondered.

Did you ever read the poem “The Raven” by Edgar Allen Poe?

> **[The Raven by Edgar Allan Poe](https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/48860/the-raven)**
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> Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,