# Multiple desktop layouts - help needed

**URL:** <https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835>\
**Category:** Get Involved\
**Created:** [December 29, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835 "2019-12-29T11:12:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 11:12am UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/1 "2019-12-29T11:12:41Z")

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For 20.04 LTS we are looking to support multiple desktop layouts - so we need your help.

If you like to customise your panel(s) and desktop this is your chance to get involved!

The only real ability you need here is an eye for detail … and to take a few screenshots. No really - its that simple!

Suggested layouts:

1. “windows 7/10”
2. “Mac OS” aka Cupertino [Multiple desktop layouts - help needed](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/8)
3. “Mate”
4. “Unity 7”  
… and anything else

EDIT:

The following instructions will install the test layouts functionality - the GUI will come later. Its best to use a spare VM - and out 19.10 PPA has the necessary fixes for the “Unity 7” layout.

If you are using 19.10 - `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntubudgie-dev/eoan-test && sudo apt upgrade` --\> use this to grab the Unity 7 fixes

For 18.04/19.04/19.10/20.04 - `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntubudgie-dev/budgie-extras-daily && sudo apt dist-upgrade`

Logout/login

run in a terminal:

```
python3 /usr/lib/budgie-extras-daemon/invoke.py layoutname

```

EDIT: In 20.04 the above is not needed anymore [Multiple desktop layouts - help needed](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/60)

The following `layoutname` can so far be used:

1. traditional
2. cupertino
3. theone
4. ubuntubudgie
5. redmond

Let me know your thoughts

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Prerequisites:

1. Please use 19.10 or 20.04 - suggest use a new user account so that you can use the default clean setup rather than your current customised version.
2. you can only propose to use applets found either in the ubuntu repositories or our budgie-extras-daily PPA - **DO NOT use backport PPA applets**.
3. You can use our new [applications-menu](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/proposal-for-a-new-menu-applet-for-the-desktop/2805) if it fits your proposed layout
4. if you want to use a workspace applet then default the number of workspaces to two … and please use only our new visualspace applet (budgie-visualspace-applet) found in the daily PPA (ubuntubudgie-dev/budgie-extras-daily)
5. Use Pocillo theme + Pocillo icons + default wallpaper i.e. the **default look and feel**
6. You should not have anything on the desktop - remove showtime applet and weather applets etc. Remember the picture will be used in budgie-welcome - so it needs to be clean and good quality.
7. Come up with a name for your layout that **isnt trademarked** i.e. we can’t call the layout “mac os” … or “windows” - obviously it needs to be meaningfully associated
8. Take a full desktop screenshot and paste here in a post (one post per layout) - make sure the **menu applet is open** when you take the screenshot
9. Take a screenshot of budgie-desktop-settings - panels - obviously we need to understand how you created the layout i.e. what applets, in what position etc If you use spacers and other tweaks and tucks we need to understand what values you changed.

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 3:52pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/2 "2019-12-29T15:52:49Z")

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So you don’t need to code, just customize your desktop to fit those criteria?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/3 "2019-12-29T16:07:24Z")

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There will be coding. But for the moment just need the pictures and layouts.

Once we have consensus on the layouts then will have to turn that into formatted files like /usr/share/budgie-desktop/panel.ini. extra tweaks will need coding

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/4 "2019-12-29T16:34:51Z")

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Got it. How’s this for a MacOS layout?

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/6/60451f7b9c7c2b5a493c5f89f5e9cd560730e5f5.png)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/e/ec8a7b2f0b9887cc07c63183d46f762f2efe8457.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/6/620f2218da114a977d6e2b1c09bc775ee406d4de.jpeg)  
Hmm. For the name, I’m not sure. Cupertino is what Ubuntu mate uses.

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/5 "2019-12-29T16:37:45Z")

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A description:

- Applets used:  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/d/dfdf8ce09f26c90b30453b1082dabb254fe286f1.png)
- Panel size 35, Always transparent.
- Plank set to intellihide (although macOS doesn’t use intellihide, you might want to disable this)
- Plank size set to 52

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 7:17pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/6 "2019-12-29T19:17:47Z")

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Looking at stuff on the web the clock and some of the applet positions and actual applets are not the same e.g. dont think caffeine is there on the desktop?

> **[macOS Mojave](https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacOS_Mojave)**
>
> macOS 10.14 "Mojave" (moʊˈhɑːvi, dall'omonimo deserto californiano) è la quindicesima versione del sistema operativo macOS sviluppato da Apple Inc. È stato presentato ufficialmente al pubblico da Craig Federighi il 4 giugno 2018 a San Francisco, durante l'Apple WWDC. Lo stesso giorno della presentazione è stata rilasciata la prima beta per sviluppatori.
> macOS Mojave è supportato su questi dispositivi:
> Con macOS Mojave, la libreria OpenGL e il framework OpenCL vengono abbandonati. Saranno ancora...

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:00pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/7 "2019-12-29T20:00:36Z")

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True, true. I’ll try again 😛  
Also that page is in Italian?  
honestly I _could_ do way better if I used external themes that resembled macOS, but that’s illegal iirc

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:11pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/8 "2019-12-29T20:11:57Z")

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This should be closer:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/c/cafc8996a30fe200a66ab724dd2620f1de98aed7.jpeg)  
Panel layout:  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/0/0778b56576e6120472037842ceb3aad92eccb768.png)  
Screenshot of just the panel:  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/1/11767a3335dc1d68beca8ba8451378b2e3051147.png)

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:16pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/9 "2019-12-29T20:16:15Z")

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BTW, can I use Qogir for the Windows layout?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:20pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/10 "2019-12-29T20:20:27Z")

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Thx. Yeah. Arc, Qogir or Pocillo can be used whichever is best.

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/11 "2019-12-29T20:38:54Z")

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That’s great! I think arc might fit the macOS theme better, I’ll try later 😛  
For the macOS layout, can buttons be moved to the left?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:43pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/12 "2019-12-29T20:43:53Z")

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> [@codic](#):
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> can buttons be moved to the left?

Yes. Should be possible to poke that setting.

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 8:55pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/13 "2019-12-29T20:55:03Z")

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Hey so pocillo does fit better then arc

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/b/bcd694325d66df1c33f8c888f95a1000ea14fbc7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 10:24pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/14 "2019-12-29T22:24:13Z")

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Windows layout:

 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/4/47c56902eceaa4cdd4ece9031875768fbdacfd2f.jpeg)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/a/abf3fa8295bdee8be26649329f136fe7d3ef3313.png)  
Panel layout:  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/f/fc3c7e0cc944c1bf3c98ddafec7d41a77c34c021.png)  
 ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/f/f09e752973773acf40ce1edff861df940842bec1.png)  
@fossfreedom Is it good enough, or does anything need to be changed?  
(LibreOffice uses the Tabbed layout)

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 10:29pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/15 "2019-12-29T22:29:50Z")

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Also what about dark themes?

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**Author:** ![fossfreedom](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/fossfreedom/32/1405_2.png) [@fossfreedom](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/fossfreedom)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/16 "2019-12-29T22:36:22Z")

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The theme is not really the issue here - the capability is really to adjust the layout to ease the users preferred workflow. So theme will be set separately.

Pictures will be better with a clean desktop (probably).

As to the windows layout I’ll leave this to your research to see if its accurate. From memory think the new appmenu isnt a close representation?

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2019, 10:48pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/17 "2019-12-29T22:48:17Z")

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The list layout resembles Windows 7’s, but it’s better then the standard Budgie Menu anyways as of now. I’ll take clean pictures, later

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**Author:** ![Jason](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dc4da7/32.png) [@Jason](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Jason)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 3:10pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/18 "2020-01-01T15:10:50Z")

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Codic, your final mac layout looks accurate. Too bad we can’t include some of the extra themes out there to build the traffic light windows 😛

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**Author:** ![codic](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/codic/32/2569_2.png) [@codic](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/codic)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/19 "2020-01-01T15:41:14Z")

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Yeah 😛 I’ve done way better clones with GTK themes

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**Author:** ![Coeur-Noir](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/user_avatar/discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/coeur-noir/32/4515_2.png) [@Coeur-Noir](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/u/Coeur-Noir)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2020, 5:36pm UTC](https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/t/multiple-desktop-layouts-help-needed/2835/20 "2020-01-05T17:36:03Z")

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I may be out of sight since its UbuntuBudgie 18.04 here but my ( kind of ) Unity layout :

 ![Capture du 2020-01-05 18-32-39](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/a/aaf0c96631bf5e838bcfa293118aef7dc7fbe216.jpeg)  
 ![Capture du 2020-01-05 18-30-36](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/b/b4df9d0711be03af6cccc2eb9e72e6dd71186721.jpeg)  
 ![Capture du 2020-01-05 18-30-04](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex035/uploads/ubuntubudgie/original/2X/1/151fe35c698c47e4e93cee24e430afedae1194e4.jpeg)

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