Unable to login after installing a second operating system

Hello , I’m back :joy: I have install budgie close to another OS. I’m now in dual-boot. Everything is OK. I decide to change who OS start in first, my choice I use a tool for change between budgie and hybrid . When I start I choice in "option ===> grub place===> I have sda6 for hybrid & sda7 for budgie…iI decide sda6 hybryd to be first one. My manipulation are OK sda6 hybryd start first.
After that I close my hardisk & I verified if budgie is OK after ! ! I start my harddisk . That is the big trouble, when I open budgie , it’s impossible for open budgie because it’s necessary to typing my password not recognise 2 times. And after I’m obliged to close my harddisk ??? please give me the reason why this splendid failure ?? Budgie is blocked ?? But when I restart, no trouble when I start hybryd. many thanks :sunglasses:

I use a tool for change between budgie and hybrid
→ what is that tool ?

Reading choice in "option ===> grub place===> I have sda6 for hybrid & sda7 for budgie…iI decide sda6 it sounds like you have installed grub on partition sda6.

Shouldn’t Grub be installed on device sda and not on a partition sdax of that device ???

On the other hand, any modification of grub settings must be followed by sudo update-grub

If your both systems were installed regularly then at start of your computer Grub should be displayed, giving you the choice of which OS to boot.
→ is this what happens, or not ?

After that I close my hardisk
→ what does it mean ? Why do you do that for ? Is this an external disk ?

So here lacks useful and reliable info for the moment. Maybe
sudo fdisk -l
or
lsblk
or
df -Th

Hi coeur noir,
I repeat the budgie install regular & correct all is Okey ! Close to hybryd no problem fro him
1er , this tool are " boot-repair-disk"
When in this tool are open, you have any options " repair comand" and “options avancées” I use always this !
For the grub it’s Okey on sda6 !
exact, I have the choice between sda6 or sda 7
Capture d’écran-2
one by one they function for this tool


I’m surprise you don’t know this tool ? created by Yannubuntu since +/- 10 years :wink:
and finaly with
Capture d’écran-4
After the trouble I have use this " sudo fdisk -l with after sudo fsck /dev/sda 6 … check !
I have two OSs with sda6 (hybryd) & sda7 (budgie) I choice sda6, the automatic manip doing it in +/- 3 mn no more and hybryd are now first open !
For your understanding, after the installe budgie finish it’s automatic budgie are first… I decide always like this when I installe any new O.S.

The result are negatif, because my password block budgie when I would like open it ! here is the reason why I’m obliged to close my PC . the harddisk are the second on this PC internal…I have tree hardisk inside … I hope you understood what I said ? Because for me a noise with budgie are really a big surprise ? Everything are Okey but this bug are not normal ! !
Finaly my question where come from the problem? Why blocking password not recognise for open budgie? mystery…

I know very well these tools.
But how was I supposed to guess that you used them, and how you used them, and why ???

Please confirm :
1⋅ at boot, can you see grub ?
2⋅ Does grub give you the choice of which OS to boot ?
3⋅ once you choose Budgie, system boots and shows its login screen but that’s where your password is refused ?
→ answer these question only by yes or no. Thanks.

If your install was clean, you would not have needed boot-repair. Simple as that. Boot-repair is only needed when Grub is broken. When installing many linux OS side by side for multi-boot, Grub updates the list of installed OS. So no need for boot-repair to force that.

Boot-repair and its automatic repair suggestion are a fast way to break everything.
Would you mind create a boot-info report and post its link here ?

When installing Budgie, do you remember « where » you installed Grub ?
Grub should be installed on a DEVICE, not on a partition.

If all your OS’s are on sda, try :
sudo grub-install /dev/sda
followed by
sudo update-grub
Any modification regarding grub must be followed by issuing the command sudo update-grub.

If you can’t provide a boot-info report, please copy-paste here outputs of
sudo fdisk -l
lsblk
df -Th

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Tree first question are YES…

Please see all downstairs I have also the boot info
here is :upside_down_face:
http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dr4mmZmJzH/

IMG_0752

Here is the result after use “boot-repair” the first line is for " hybryd custom “monster” the second line are for budgie 20.04
But after the correct install of budgie its contrary situation ! Budgie are on first line & hybryd are in second line…
I have said , I prefer hydryd first when I open my harddisk that all
Normaly , when the install is OK , open the terminal and typing this
"sudo update-grub"
Now for to be honest , I don’t understand why after my own manip’s with boot-repair? Here is the result super catastrophic for refuse opening with my personal password ? After the closed & reboot harddisk budgie are OK but without my picture like this and not password or budgie it’s always my decider, not passwd connection automatic…

And then, check for open budgie session return normal opening …passwd refuse … :rofl: I try it now :nauseated_face:
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1⋅ Are you aware that « hybrid » is Ubuntu 14.04 based ? → it’s obsolete and no longer supported. Dead project.

2⋅ Are you aware that there have been substantial changes in Linux Kernel since 14.04 regarding EXT3/4 filesystem support breaking compatibility between 14.04 and later versions ?
https://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=22282089#p22282089

3⋅ For installing Budgie did you first launch a live-session and then launch the Budgie-installer from there OR did you first prepare your disc/partition using maybe gparted from « hybrid » session ?

4⋅ In recent time - I mean since you have Budgie installed - have you seen any automatic « check disk » process ?

5⋅ reading your boot-info I can only see one disk ( sda ) and some partitions for / ( hybryd and budgie ). Do you confirm there is NO separate partition for /home ?
Do you confirm there is NO other disk ?

6⋅ Would you mind issuing - from console
ls -la /home/jibel/
to see any eventual permissions issues Budgie’s side.
If you can’t access console you may try from hybrid session, as long as you target the /home/jibel/ which sits on sda7

7⋅ Do you happen to launch commands such as sudo gedit or sudo nautilus or sudo startx ???
→ don’t ever do such commands but answer question :wink:

Hi Coeur noir,
1°)First point, yes I known for Hybryd are in base "kubuntu not ubuntu with 9 environment & the master desktop ?If this OS is obsolete yes! But it’s impossible to used it ?? Incredible but true :rofl:
2°)Now in hybryd the partition was created by myself not during the install. in ext 4 for **ext3 **are for the past. Never install with ext3 !
3)° For installing Budgie did you first launch a live-session and then launch the Budgie-installer from there OR did you first prepare your disc/partition using maybe gparted from « hybrid » session ?
False more false never! I have an answer like this ! My partition I do it myself ans after I use this in installed not with the "special instructor budgie"
4°) In recent time - I mean since you have Budgie installed - have you seen any automatic « check disk » process ?
Yes when I have introduce my name & passwd I decide not with the passwd to be connected
5°) reading your boot-info I can only see one disk ( sda ) and some partitions for / ( hybryd and budgie ). Do you confirm there is NO separate partition for /home ?
If you see correctly they partition for budgie & hybryd too big exactly Yes sir…
6°)Do you confirm there is NO other disk ?°)
Right sir, when I install an OS , never when my tree harddisk are connected, that’ all; ! Never I’m doing fabulous error, since 15 years
7°)Would6 you mind issuing - from console
ls -la /home/jibel/
I don’t have /home looking for understood that yourself they partition are too much +/- 100 go & for the budgie installer iso are +/- 10 Go that all…When I download, music, picture or anything these transfers directly in own the folders etc …
I’m not staying in the past proceed version for installed a OS with this: 15Go for / 30 Go for /home +/- 9 Go for swap here is the proceed install for the new one user … that’s all
8°) *Do you happen to launch commands such as sudo gedit or sudo nautilus or sudo startx???
Finally, my answer is :upside_down_face: I need update & upgrade? After the end install OK ? I open my terminal “guake” I typing like this :
sudo su===>passwd====> apt update && apt upgrade everything come after my command ! That’s all ! ! !
For your suggestion ? Who, who ! When I need consult all folders? I need in “root” I suppose you know perfectly what can I do ?? :rofl:
If you have a not understand for explain this one or this other one? I contact you private ?
Last point today, never I don’t have received right answer concerning the budgie anomaly for the refusing connected (password) return to the session !! That is the real bug see you soon :sleeping: :face_with_thermometer: :face_with_thermometer: :face_with_head_bandage:

are you sharing the same home folder between the two operating systems?

No absolutely not ! Everyone OS have his own folder, that all…You have one specific for budgie ! Me? I have thunar for hybryd…nautilus or thunar or an other folder principal …

Did you read « there have been substantial changes in Linux Kernel since 14.04 regarding EXT3/4 filesystem support breaking compatibility between 14.04 and later versions » ???

So if you created yourself an EXT3/4 partition from hybrid/14.04, chances are it’s not fully compatible with EXT3/4 as handled by newer Linux Kernels.

I don’t ask for your opinion, or what you believe is right or wrong about this or that.
I need reliable info to try to understand what happens to your system.
So please, post output of :
ls -la /home/jibel
to see owner and permissions of hidden files there.
If some files there don’t belong to jibel - you may be unable to login.

Last point today, never I don’t have received right answer concerning the budgie anomaly for the refusing connected (password) return to the session !!
Because it’s most probably not a Budgie bug but the consequence of how you installed things, beside unsupported old OS, not using the default-newer installer, and using boot-repair before really understand where is the problem.

Suggestion for next time you prepare a partition for installing a new OS :
do this only with most current, recent, supported tools.
Be they gparted, gnome-disks, calamares or ubiquity, choose your favorite. But a recent, still maintained and supported one.
Not one which has not been upgraded for years and thus may lack latest filesystems refinements.

For to be honest my question is your answer are completely false !


What you see?? first for hybryd & second for budgie! With which number ? sda6 hybryd sda7 budgie…for the moment sda7 are always here not directly to the trash !
You want I add ls )la /home/jibel ? ok here is :face_with_head_bandage:

jibel@jibel-MS-7728:~$ ls -la /home/jibel
total 7776
drwxr-xr-x  53 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 21:46 .
drwxr-xr-x   4 root  root     4096 déc 26  2018 ..
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel  532180 avr 14  2015 1769-XP_Badboy.jpg
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .adobe
drwx------   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 24  2017 .aptitude
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel      86 déc 21  2017 .asoundrc
drwxrwxr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 fév 27  2019 .avidemux
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    7593 mai 11 19:20 .bash_history
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel     220 déc 20  2017 .bash_logout
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel    3637 déc 20  2017 .bashrc
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 15:26 Bureau
drwx------  36 jibel jibel    4096 avr 17 11:03 .cache
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  400868 mai 19  2019 capture d'écran10.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel 1072571 oct 30  2019 capture d'écran11.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  520690 nov 23 08:48 capture d'écran12.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  683597 sep  1  2018 capture d'écran1.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  683597 sep  1  2018 capture d'écran2.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  476875 nov 17  2018 capture d'écran3.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  493233 nov 17  2018 capture d'écran4.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  507970 déc 13  2018 capture d'écran5.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  483700 déc 13  2018 capture d'écran6.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  388679 fév 15  2019 capture d'écran7.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  688190 mar 28  2019 capture d'écran8.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  437080 mai 19  2019 capture d'écran9.png
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel  202686 déc 13  2018 Capture du 2018-11-19 19:07:21.png
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 sep 28  2019 .cddbslave
drwxrwxr-x   6 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .clamtk
drwxr-xr-x  65 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 15:28 .config
drwxr-xr-x 130 jibel jibel   12288 mai 11 15:28 .conky
drwxr-xr-x  10 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .Conky
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 conky-manager
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .dbus
drwxrwxr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 avr 28  2018 deja-dup
drwxrwxr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 jan 28  2018 demonipuch-brprinter-installer-386485f72672
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel     102 mar 21  2019 .directory
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel      24 déc 20  2017 .dmrc
drwxr-xr-x   6 jibel jibel    4096 mai  7 17:07 Documents
drwxrwxr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 avr  9  2018 dwhelper
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 mai  8  2019 .e
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel   12288 déc 20  2017 .fonts
drwxrwxr-x   4 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .fvwm
drwx------   4 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 19:23 .gconf
drwxr-xr-x  24 jibel jibel    4096 avr 15  2018 .gimp-2.8
-rw-r-----   1 jibel jibel       0 déc 27 03:53 .gksu.lock
drwx------   4 jibel jibel    4096 déc 22  2017 .gnome2
drwx------   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .gnome2_private
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 12 18:04 .gnupg
drwx------   2 jibel jibel    4096 avr  7  2018 .gphoto
drwxrwxr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 mar 21  2019 .gstreamer-0.10
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel     349 déc 23  2017 .gtkrc-2.0
lrwxrwxrwx   1 jibel jibel      22 déc 23  2017 .gtkrc-2.0-kde4 -> /home/jibel/.gtkrc-2.0
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .gvfs
drwxr-----   2 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 15:27 .hplip
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    4180 jan 18 01:33 .ICEauthority
drwxr-xr-x   4 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .icons
drwxr-xr-x   5 jibel jibel    4096 mai 11 09:02 Images
drwxrwxr-x   6 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .kde
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel    6805 sep 28  2019 Lauren Hill.xspf
drwxrwxr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .local
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .macromedia
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel    4879 jan 28  2018 master.zip
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 Modèles
drwxr-xr-x   5 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .mozilla
drwxrwxr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 sep  8  2018 .mplayer
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 sep 28  2019 Musique
-rwxrwxr-x   1 jibel jibel   16623 déc 20  2017 nineteen.sh
drwx------   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .nv
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel    1614 mar 28  2019 .nvidia-settings-rc
drwxr-x---   6 jibel jibel    4096 avr 25  2019 .openshot
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel     226 jan 19  2018 .pam_environment
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .pki
-rw-r--r--   1 jibel jibel     675 déc 20  2017 .profile
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 Public
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    1244 sep  1  2019 .recently-used
drwx------   3 jibel jibel    4096 jan 28  2018 .sane
drwx------   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 23  2017 .ssh
drwx------   2 jibel jibel    4096 déc 25  2017 .synaptic
drwxr-xr-x   4 jibel jibel   12288 mai  9 17:06 Téléchargements
drwxr-xr-x   5 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .themes
drwxr-xr-x   4 jibel jibel    4096 déc 20  2017 .thumbnails
drwx------   5 jibel jibel    4096 oct 16  2018 .thunderbird
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    2186 mai 24  2019 *ubuntu-frorg.crt
drwxr-xr-x   3 jibel jibel    4096 avr  1 16:30 Vidéos
drwxr-xr-x   6 jibel jibel    4096 aoû 24  2019 VirtualBox VMs
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel      58 mai 11 19:23 .Xauthority
drwxr-xr-x   2 jibel jibel    4096 sep 11  2019 .xine
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel     131 jan 19  2018 .xinputrc
-rw-rw-r--   1 jibel jibel    7658 mai 11 21:46 .xscreensaver
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    3490 mai 12 08:09 .xsession-errors
-rw-------   1 jibel jibel    3201 mai 11 19:20 .xsession-errors.old
jibel@jibel-MS-7728:~$ 

are you satisfied ? I said no!

The bug are come from the budgie installer ? if you remember well, I have inside a screenshot where you see perfectly budgie are installed in the partition 1,50Tera IN the rest of my harddisk this is exactly what you see with my last screenshot today more /less. But if you understood in opposite side ?? In this case, it’s over for me dear Frenchman…I push budgie directly in trash… Because what? I don’t have received the right answer, concerning this trouble ! That all …
Now and last post , when anyone would like install budgie, in the page everyone are tree possibility :
1er take the first place replaces hybryd and install budgie same place
second choice near to hybryd install budgie near his part
last choice " very important" doing other thing… here is the right suggest …I doing that since 15 years… Never I take the place of hybryd, never I install close to hybryd and finally in the last suggest everyone see the sda7 on ext4 for budgie installed in 25 mn …
Now If personally you install this very different thing ??My god ! we are in opposite side …
PS; I have forget to put inside the result of command in blockquote sorry ! line by line …

I am closing this topic. I am not happy with your attitude and how you reply. A good member of the community is trying to help but what I see from you is verging on abuse. That is not acceptable.

Its very clear from the thread so far that by performing the actions you have done you have messed up your installation. This isn’t anything todo with Ubuntu Budgie.