Budgie vs Mint, your opinion?

Experienced Mint/Budgie users

Do you agree with this comparison ?

JF
Tks ! :wink:

I guess Iā€™d like to just clarify, this isnā€™t Mint vs (Ubuntu) Budgie (a distro comparison), this is Cinnamon vs Budgie (a Desktop Environment comparison).
Mint vs Budgie is a different comparison altogether (perhaps not comparable at allā€¦)

Of course, asking this question on a forum dedicated to the support of one of the choices is probably going to yield a predictable result.

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@cleary You are rightā€¦ Cinnamon vs Budgieā€¦

I come from the Macintosh World and Windows world where OS and GUIā€™s names are the sameā€¦

JF

I donā€™t take those types of comparisons very seriously. But with that being said, here are some thoughts:

  • Mint has definitely been around longer
  • How many of those people have actually used BOTH desktops for a decent period of time?
  • Some of the ā€œproā€ features are only supported on the specific desktop. For example ā€œWorks well with Cairo dock on the bottom and cinnamon menu on topā€. Well of course budgie will not have that pro - we donā€™t use the cinnamon menu at all.
  • Itā€™s obviously very subjective. Not Desktop will be everything to everyone.

I just find they are not a reason or accurate means for determining if you should use a desktop. Reality - just try it and try bothā€¦ for more than a few days and use what works for you. That was a generalized statement - not targeted to you. :slight_smile:

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Iā€™ve been using Cinnamon for about 2 years at work. It does what I need it to do, but its been getting a bit slow. Iā€™m getting a new workstation which is why Iā€™m looking at other options. My needs are pretty simple:

  1. Multiple desktops
  2. Tabbed terminal
  3. Not crash!

Iā€™ve always had the dock on the bottom so anything where its on the side weirds me out. Budgie looks interesting though, and Iā€™m willing to give it a shot.

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You can always change the desktop layout through the Budgie Desktop Settings program. I used to run Mint as well until Spectre/Meltdown patches soft bricked the machine. Now Iā€™m running Budgie on my MacBook Air, the only problems Iā€™ve ever had are with the wifi adapter intermittently dropping in and out while using 5ghz radio band. I havenā€™t noticed any disconnections connected to my 2.4ghz routerā€¦ and even then, thatā€™s not even Ubuntuā€™s doing although itā€™d be great to have some native support for Apple products. I had to connect to my phoneā€™s Bluetooth tether in order to download the driver for the wifi adapter. Had to do this in Mint as well, such are the challenges we face for a reward as great as Linux, knowing whatā€™s going on inside your machine rather than running completely proprietary code.

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You can easily move the dock to the bottom in the ā€œplank preferencesā€. :slight_smile:

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I will be perfectly honest here, the only reason I am using Budgie now is because Mint will not run on my AMD Ryzen 3 2200G based computer. Budgie at least runs, although not perfectly.

Iā€™ve been using Mint for many years, and it fits me like a well-worn suit. Budgie is like a new suit, needs adjustment here and there, but in time, will be just as comfortable. However, right now, I am not prepared to say which one I like better, because Iā€™m still in the adjustment process and trying to figure out if the problems Iā€™m experiencing are because of the Ryzen CPU.

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You should try Manjaro Budgie.

Love the look of Budgie and the whole layout just works for me. Minor issue is the width of the window scroll bar which is too thin and can only be adjusted (unless Iā€™ve missed something) by changing the default theme which is my favorite. Been using it for over a year now and prefer it over all other desktop environments Iā€™ve tried beforeā€¦the worst for me being Unity - full hate on that ! :slight_smile:

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You can change the width with:

sudo gedit ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

and add:

scrollbar slider {
min-width: 20px; # size of the slider
min-height: 20px;
border-radius: 22px;
border: 5px solid transparent; # padding around the slider
}

Using U-Budgie for some months now, quite pleasant. Coming from Unity - full love on it, personally - I feel almost as comfortable with Budgie as I was with Unity. I assume you wonā€™t like Ā« my Ā» Budgie layout, lol.

Almost : like in most DE, I miss a place where recently used files AND appā€™s are shown with same importance, at one click or keystroke reach.

Iā€™ve tried Cinnamon ( under Ubuntu, not Mint ) a few weeks and it did not Ā« catch Ā» me : nothingā€™s wrong but also nothing Ā« special Ā». But it may be its strength for some reason.

You could use an appindicator solution such as this to display recently used files

Ohā€¦ I remember now why Vlijm is not an unknown name for me :wink: I tried / used many of his scripts for Unityā€¦
So AppIndicators work in Budgie ? Interestingā€¦ thanks !

The linked answer should work without an issue (just tried). It also mentions this one: https://askubuntu.com/questions/850930/is-there-a-places-menu-for-ubuntu-unity/851148#851148, which has two issues: the icon is huge and Nautilus connect to network has changed, which makes the indicator crash on modern versions of nautilus. Iā€™ll see if I can knock up an applet from (modernized code of) the indicator, but working on another applet atm.

Ahā€¦ the .png needs to be 22px as per the indicator spec ā€¦ or a .svg

Exactly, and is gone (I believe it was that one). choosing it makes the indicator crash. Just need to remove it form the menu, the options and the corresponding functions.

One of the thing I always found weird is Cinnamon itself on how little it was extensible and how there werenā€™t many addons for it. Aside from that Iā€™m not really a fan of their security system and update process to new releases.

Arenā€™t there quite a few Cinnamon Spices add-ons? I remember when I was trying it I had a number of Weather apps, menu extension, etc working with itā€¦

I have used Mint before in the past, Cinnamon, and Cinnamon always seem to crash on me. I had finally had enough and moved on. I have never had the Budgie desktop crash on meā€¦and couldnā€™t be more happy.

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